A Conversation with Kathryn Jean Lopez from National Review

Had the absolute pleasure to talk with National Review’s Kathryn Jean Lopez on Why Culture Matters. We discussed why it’s ok to be joyful. This was beautiful conversation.

Living Joy does not mean a life without sorrow or pain. It does mean living in hope. In her new book, Undaunted Joy: The Revolutionary Act of Cultivating Delight, Shemaiah Gonzalez encourages finding joy in the small things in life. It’s a good practice for gratitude and being light in dark and distracting times. Based in Seattle, Gonzalez talks with Kathryn Jean Lopez about finding the joys in Costco, naps, and the much more enduring things.